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WW2 Anti-Aircraft :Very Rare Test Firing Photograph: Needing further help

Nightfire

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Once again I am appealing for further help or insight to my grandfarther , I have just recived this photograph from my Uncle of what my grandfarther designed during the war. I thought the Warheads that I have where part of this new rocket but I am not so sure in all honestly it looks like a small V1 rocket so I am hoping someone may know more , oh in the photo the gentleman facing towards the camera is my grandfarther and just on a special note I have finally found his BEM that he was awarded for his work.

Happy to hear anyones insight

Cheers again.
 

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Looking through an old book on rockets and missiles, I have found a description of a programme called "Brakemine", which is said to be the only British SAM programme of WW2. There is a photo which shows a winged missile on a ramp, similar to yours although not quite the same - the photo caption says it was "one of the later models" so clearly they evolved.

Incidentally, the caption also says that "few photographs survive" of this programme, so the Imperial War Museum and the Artillery Museum might very well be interested in copies of your photo.

My book has quite a detailed description of the project which ran between 1942 and 1947. If you PM me with your email address I'll scan it and send it to you.

I have found only one internet reference, here: http://www.skomer.u-net.com/projects/brakemine.htm Since this says that an example of the missile survives at the REME museum, they might like a copy of your photo too.

In fact, I suspect that you may have the basis for an article in a military history magazine, if you're that way inclined.
 
The test site could possibly be Manorbier Range near Tenby, Pembrokeshire in Wales. This was used from the late 1930's by the Royal Artillery. The coastline certainly seems to fit the location.
 
The test site could possibly be Manorbier Range near Tenby, Pembrokeshire in Wales. This was used from the late 1930's by the Royal Artillery. The coastline certainly seems to fit the location.

I'd agree with the coastline comment, I've walked in that area many times and it does look quite familiar.
Dave.
 
It looks like Aberporth to me.

The Projectile Development Establishment was moved from Fort Halstead to Aberporth in 1940.

Rocket test firings were carried out there during the war.

I understand that some captured German Missiles were tested there post war.
 
It looks like Aberporth to me.

The Projectile Development Establishment was moved from Fort Halstead to Aberporth in 1940.

Rocket test firings were carried out there during the war.

I understand that some captured German Missiles were tested there post war.

Happy to go with the Aberporth idea now. Just a bit more confirmation of this comes from the book "Dangerous Energy" by W D Cocroft. In Ch8 he talks about ww2 and post war rocket development and briefly mentions the cordite based rocket motors used in "Brakemine", "Little Ben", and "Stooge" experimental guided weapons. He also mentions that a missile range was developed at Aberporth as an out station of the Royal Aeronautical Establishment (Farnborough) - did nightfire not mention in a previous thread that his g/father worked for RAE as well as G Kent?
 
Brakemine Beam Rider

Some notes attached which might be helpful.
 

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Once again I am appealing for further help or insight to my grandfarther , I have just recived this photograph from my Uncle of what my grandfarther designed during the war. I thought the Warheads that I have where part of this new rocket but I am not so sure in all honestly it looks like a small V1 rocket so I am hoping someone may know more , oh in the photo the gentleman facing towards the camera is my grandfarther and just on a special note I have finally found his BEM that he was awarded for his work.

Happy to hear anyones insight

Cheers again.
Hello Nightfire, This photo shows the Fairey Stooge or Brakemine which was tested at Aberporth from 1944 to 1947. my grandfather Dr John Brittain was involved with this missile. He ended up as a Principal Scientific Officer and had been involved with the 3-inch UP rocket and had travelled to Jamaica in early 1939 as the senior explosives and propellants expert at the trials carried out there involving the test firing of 2,500 rockets. Other projects were Uncle Tom, an 10-inch rocket, Lilo, Japenese bunker weapon, as well as working with Barnes Wallis on the explosives for the bouncing bomb Panjandrum, the large catherine wheel type weapon which was later immortalized on Dad's Army, along with Torpedoes of different types. Can I ask your grandfather's name, I might have some details that I can share with you. Churchill's son-in-law, Duncan Sandys was in charge of the experimental battery from late 1940 until 1941. Battlefield illumination rockets, Boxer life saving rockets and rocket powered grappling irons were also developed here. My grandfather was also sent to Germany immediately after the war with T-Force to hunt for German rocket weapons and took part in Operation Backfire, the firing trial of German V-2 rockets, as a technical advisor, at Cuxhaven in the autumn of 1945. Best wishes,
John Brittain
 
Hello Nightfire, This photo shows the Fairey Stooge or Brakemine which was tested at Aberporth from 1944 to 1947. my grandfather Dr John Brittain was involved with this missile. He ended up as a Principal Scientific Officer and had been involved with the 3-inch UP rocket and had travelled to Jamaica in early 1939 as the senior explosives and propellants expert at the trials carried out there involving the test firing of 2,500 rockets. Other projects were Uncle Tom, an 10-inch rocket, Lilo, Japenese bunker weapon, as well as working with Barnes Wallis on the explosives for the bouncing bomb Panjandrum, the large catherine wheel type weapon which was later immortalized on Dad's Army, along with Torpedoes of different types. Can I ask your grandfather's name, I might have some details that I can share with you. Churchill's son-in-law, Duncan Sandys was in charge of the experimental battery from late 1940 until 1941. Battlefield illumination rockets, Boxer life saving rockets and rocket powered grappling irons were also developed here. My grandfather was also sent to Germany immediately after the war with T-Force to hunt for German rocket weapons and took part in Operation Backfire, the firing trial of German V-2 rockets, as a technical advisor, at Cuxhaven in the autumn of 1945. Best wishes,
John Brittain
I think your photo was taken on the North Battery
 
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