WW2 French 47mm

[Tuney]

Three relic French 47mm tungsten tipped shells from the SA anti tank gun used by the Lorraine 37LCC tank waiting to go into electrolysis to remove all the rust. Missing there ballistic caps. Thank you Kie

 

[ron3350]

Here is my 47mm capped projectile that is 145mm long.
There are 5 crimps holding the cap. Not sure if all are original or marks from somebody trying to unscrew the cap?

 

[MINENAZ16]

Here is my 47mm capped projectile that is 145mm long.
There are 5 crimps holding the cap. Not sure if all are original or marks from somebody trying to unscrew the cap?

Hello Ron3350,
Not the same ; your shell is a M35 with penetration cap, others are M36 (Tuney : no tungsten) missing light magnesium ballistic caps (screwed).
It's difficult to find these caps in good condition because of the light alloy used. Shots and caps were stored separatly (a story said that gunners could fire shots without caps).

 

[ron3350]

I got this projectile in a 47 x 380 (or 378 actual) M.1937 case. Is this a correct match?

 

[MINENAZ16]

I got this projectile in a 47 x 380 (or 378 actual) M.1937 case. Is this a correct match?

ron3350, the correct case is 193.5mm M35.
Your 380mm case is correct for Tuney' shots.

 

[ron3350]

Thank you. I have a lot to learn about French artillery. I do not have this short case.

 

[Tuney]

Hello Ron3350,
Not the same ; your shell is a M35 with penetration cap, others are M36 (Tuney : no tungsten) missing light magnesium ballistic caps (screwed).
It's difficult to find these caps in good condition because of the light alloy used. Shots and caps were stored separatly (a story said that gunners could fire shots without caps).

 

[MINENAZ16]

Nothing in my french doc about this alloy with 3% tungsten.

 

[Tuney]

Nothing in my french doc about this alloy with 3% tungsten.

 

[Tuney]

Also look at the tip of this corrosion everywhere apart from the tip

 

[pzgr40]

They are not tungsten tipped, but I assume the steel is an alloy with 3% tungsten, as they are really hard to cut and extremely hard to rasp, even after annealing.