WW2 Italian 12.7mm Breda HE Rounds

[oldshotandshell]

Could anyone please provide anymore information about these two Italian 12.7mm Breda HE rounds/projectiles? Firstly, they are not the usual HE-T type in that they are solid, round bottomed with no tracer, secondly, they come in different lengths as can be seen in the first image and thirdly, some of them have a different two-piece brass percussion fuze marked J24. Any information about them would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation...


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[Nabob]

For the rounded bottom I have this pic

 

[fert]

Hello,
short one it's HE, as Nabob says, was red painted.


Other is HEITSD, blue painted. Fuze in two pieces marked J 24 was made by Junghans, 24 it's the lot.


fuzes


best regards

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello Fert,

As far as I know, HEITSD shell is not made with a round base. The long shell with remnants of blue paint doesn't match with your diagram of HEITSD.
As these fuzes are not SD fuzes I assume self destruction of HEITSD shell is made with explosion of the "F" and "E" composition when tracer mixture is finished (?)

Regards

 

[fert]

Hello,
I apologize, I'm going blind.

Minen is correct, this is the HEI.


these 2 round base models was first adopted. HE produced up to 1940, HEI produced up to 1939.

regards

 

[MINENAZ16]

Thanks for details Fert.