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BUTTERFLY BOMB - SD2 and M83 ' COLLECTION '
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butterfly
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The T49's certainly dont follow the same pattern as the three German type 70's, but you have to remember that the T49's were developed seperately and possibly before the introduction of the 70B1 and 70B2.
The T49's appear to resemble the type 70B and I think minor differences were introduced before the introduction of the M131. However so far I have I have not studied them as closely as the 70's so unable to give a conclusive answer, sorry.........I dont have enough documents on these American fuzes - as yet !
Maybe another member on here may have access to better documents than myself??
regards Kev
Nice thread just thought i had better post a picture of my fuses now i have the rare No67,,,, Dave
butterfly
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Very nice collection Dave and well done on the 67, but from your picture I note you also have the even scarcer 70A !!!
thanks for posting
regards Kev
butterfly
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Here are a couple of photographs of the M83 fuzes that I have in my collection.
The first shows the various fuzes from the side and above. The second photograph shows what the internals look like on the various fuzes.
I still have quite a few of these to collect, and hope, with a bit of luck, to add to them in the future. However I thought it would be good to share with everyone what I have in the collection to date.
The internal mechanisms resemble very closely those of the German SD2's on which the M83 was based.
All are inert, empty and F.F.E.
regards Kev
The first shows the various fuzes from the side and above. The second photograph shows what the internals look like on the various fuzes.
I still have quite a few of these to collect, and hope, with a bit of luck, to add to them in the future. However I thought it would be good to share with everyone what I have in the collection to date.
The internal mechanisms resemble very closely those of the German SD2's on which the M83 was based.
All are inert, empty and F.F.E.
regards Kev
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butterfly
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As with anything Dave I think it pays to spend a lot of time studying them before you attempt anything. I certainly wouldnt set about anything without knowing them inside out, as it were.
Also as this is a public forum - a word of warning to anyone who sees this thread......the fuzes shown in my photographs are all totally Inert and FFE (Free From Explosives).....you should NEVER mess with things like this unless you are 110% sure the item is safe - lifes too short as it is!!!!!
kind regards Kev
skull181
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Enamel Warning Sign
but with: "Fields and Trees", instead of "Hedges and Ditches"???
I was on holiday down in Paignton, Devon and we we went out for the day and came across
a small aircraft Museum and it had one on display, but it was difficult to see properly...
but I do remember the "Trees & Fields" on it.
Dave, I'm sure I saw another enamel sign many, many years ago with much the same writing,
but with: "Fields and Trees", instead of "Hedges and Ditches"???
I was on holiday down in Paignton, Devon and we we went out for the day and came across
a small aircraft Museum and it had one on display, but it was difficult to see properly...
but I do remember the "Trees & Fields" on it.
It would be nice to find one of those, I've never seen one but it makes a lot of sense.
Dave.
Hi thanks and thanks also for posting the photo, its always nice to see SD2's with original paint. Could you take a photograph of any markings on the body or wings please.
Thanks.
Dave.
butterfly
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This is very interesting - not one I have seen or heard of before, but sounds very plausable.
Someone I know has a couple of these signs buried deep within his collection and he told me that he seems to think one of them mentioned about 'overhead wires' (bear in mind it was a vague recollection - but does sound in line with the trees one)
Obviously proof will be in the pudding as they say, but no doubt if they are out there sooner or later they will turn up!!
appreciate the input
regards Kev
skull181
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Pity he can't find them and take a couple of pictures, I still remember that sign I saw.
For some reason it always stuck in my memory, I new I had to have one.
Hopefully soon, I'll have the two versions that's been shown here.
Genuine arming wires are really hard to find at the moment. I've come across fake ones at 2 shows I've been to recently. The main clue is the type of wire used.
See this link:
http://www.bocn.co.uk/threads/75595-SD2-arming-wires-real-or-repro
By all means buy a fake wire, that's up to you, some of them are very good but presumably they would be cheaper than a real one.
Dave.
Just an update on the growing collection of butterfly's.
Attached are some very recent additions.
The SD2 body is interesting in that its dated 1940 which is very early (they were first dropped in the UK in 1940). Are there any more early dated SD2's out there in peoples collections that you can post photos of?
All INERT etc.
Dave.
Attached are some very recent additions.
The SD2 body is interesting in that its dated 1940 which is very early (they were first dropped in the UK in 1940). Are there any more early dated SD2's out there in peoples collections that you can post photos of?
All INERT etc.
Dave.