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Are these 3,7 cm Skoda fuzes for the Yugo M1934?

Hoeksel

Well-Known Member
Both look the same to me and in D50/8b I think I recognize these as for the Yugo 3,7 cm Skoda M1934 AT gun, named 3,7 cm Pak 156(j) under German occupation.
 

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Yugo fuze I observed are all marked Гр37, 75, 80 100 etc... without cm or mm
you already posted a HO jugo fuze for 3,7cm

Just 4,7cm Skoda M38 fuze is different
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Distribution of small-caliber nose fuse from Škoda (until 1939)
During the war... and after the war there were other types and designations. This table is for basic orientation.
Akon


37mm
HSKopf-
Tragheitszünder
37mm ; 40mm ; 47mmHJKopf-einfacher
37mm ; 47mmHO
Kopf -augenblicklicher
 
I am indeed convinced they are not Yugo now that I dived in and got feedback. Yugo, as Fert stated, never have mm/cm indicator, and most often are preceded by Гp, e.g., " Гp37". Also, Yugo indicator for lot is the letter C.

But are both Czech? Date-wise they are pre-occupation, but why the different dating? One shows "1-39" the other 15-8-38". Often Skoda export is not identifiable as such, for example, the Dutch and Finnish 7,5 cm AA vz37 shell case is exactly like normal Czech.
 
In the left photo at the beginning of the thread I see the Škoda company logo on the fuse. In the right photo there is a graphic symbol that I can hardly see.
Do you have a detail of the marking?
If there is a Škoda logo, it is made in ČSR.
If the logo is different, the manufacturer will be from the country that bought the license for production.
Akon
 
from your pics seems skoda delivered 3,7cm and 3,72cm(export Bulgaria?) to Jugoslavia. This could be due to insolvvency of Bulgaria?

about 40mm i guess was the 40/67 - 0,95/950
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47mm delivered to Jugo navy was the 1,5/800?
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@fert
The idea that Yugoslavia was somehow doing well in terms of paying for goods is not true. Mostly for loans for which the Czech state guaranteed the Skoda company. Payment was complicated and long .... including crops, raw materials, minerals. As for Bulgaria, I do not have data on their ability to pay for ordered goods. That is why I pointed out that it is a Czechoslovakia-Yugoslavia business case in the table. For 40mm weapons, I write the onboard PL cannon, not the land-based PL cannon. So primarily the navy on ships .... Regarding the cartridge in the 40mm photo - do you have the length and R of the cartridge? The Czechoslovak army had a rented test range and therefore weapons that Yugoslavia did not own could have appeared there .... PL Škoda cannon Z1 had a caliber of 40mm PL cannon Z 2 had a caliber of 47mm .. PL cannons were of course much more, primarily naval from 37mm upwards.
Akon
 
I would like to know what means 0,95/950 and 1,5/800
Case showed it's 40x375 I don't know rim. It has Jugo primer.
here another one with better marking: 40mm p.a. 0,95/950
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I would like to know what means 0,95/950 and 1,5/800
Case showed it's 40x375 I don't know rim. It has Jugo primer.
here another one with better marking: 40mm p.a. 0,95/950
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The value 0.95/950 is the following: projectile weight / projectile muzzle velocity - this is how Škoda indicated the "power" of a cannon or mortar etc

Thank you for the values for the 40mm cartridge. p.a. (protiv avionski )
 
@Fert
@Hoeksel
By the way, while we're doing some summaries here...what did the Netherlands or Italy export to Yugoslavia before or during the war, i.e. (weapons/ammunition)?
Akon
Not aware that the Dutch ever exported to Yugoslavia. We were not big exporters anyway, we imported a lot of ordnance actually. I only know about 1 gun we exported and that was for China.
 
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