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M86

jvollenberg

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Does anyone have a M86 PD fuze for the M303 57MM they can take pictures of for me? I don't have any good images of this fuze and would like to try and get a good straight on shot of one.

Joe
 
Well, here is the best I have. I have 3 real fuzes and a counterfeit/repro. Only one of the fuzes has any marking stamped into it, and the lettering has been "adjusted by someone with a vibratory scribe to read M85. The Manual says it is supposed to be M86.

Thought I might as well show the projectile variants. Let to right T-18E1, T18E2, T24, and unmarked. Any components (projo or fuze that have a date are dated 1945.

I inherited the counterfeit from somewhere. I know where it was made and who made it. There are a lot of ordnance components floating around out there that he produced for collectors over the years. He always stamped his stuff on the base with a K for his last name, and the date, plus other letters. He was a collector, and took items in trade for his work. You will notice that the counterfeit has a radiused ogive and the brass cover for the slider is aligned with the axis of the item as a opposed to the real ones where they seem to be parallel with a straight tapered ogive.
 

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Thank you ... interesting line up. Repo stuff is always interesting, some of it has been very well made, takes a good eye.

Joe
 
This guy made a lot of things over the years, and some of it was resold by unscrupulous scumbags as being original. The items would be marked with a K and the seller would describe them as such in his sale videos.


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Sebastian, I would swear that the first drawing you show was of a 20mm fuze.


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Sebastian, I would swear that the first drawing you show was of a 20mm fuze.


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Hello,

My documentation shows three different fuzes : M85, M86 for 57mm and M505 for 20mm.

Regards

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