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Old fuze
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Andy, there's a cracking little antique centre near to the main train station in Central Cardiff called Jacobs market (see link below)
http://www.qype.co.uk/place/115124-Jacob-s-Market-Cardiff
If you go to the first floor in there there are a couple of militaria stalls, the one on the end has been run by a guy called Sean for over 20 years, he's got loads of stuff - shells, grenades, deac guns, uniforms, badges, helmets, blades etc. etc. I'd recommend a visit
Dave.
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John D. Bartleson Jr.
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Royal Laboratory Percussion Fuze;
A real nice English Royal Laboratory Mk. III percussion fuze for artillery projectiles. Spotter also posted one.
Regards,
John aka Bart
A real nice English Royal Laboratory Mk. III percussion fuze for artillery projectiles. Spotter also posted one.
Regards,
John aka Bart
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Just make sure you go on Thursday, Friday or Saturday, its shut the rest of the week.
Dave.
Fuze, Percussion, RL, No 7 (Mark III*)
Dave,
A pure graze fuze with a needle in the head and a detonator carried in an inertia pellet. The III* fuze is a conversion of the Mks II, II* and III to approximate to the last design (Mark IV) which had a 'feathered guard' to prevent the graze pellet working forward against the needle during flight (ie to stop prematures).
Nose fuze for RML 40-Pr and upwards, RBL 40-Pr in Land Service and 20-Pr in Sea Service.
Mark III* introduced 2 Dec 1892. All marks obsolete 21st July 1911.
[Refs: Notes (mine) and Hogg's. List of Changes]
Dave,
A pure graze fuze with a needle in the head and a detonator carried in an inertia pellet. The III* fuze is a conversion of the Mks II, II* and III to approximate to the last design (Mark IV) which had a 'feathered guard' to prevent the graze pellet working forward against the needle during flight (ie to stop prematures).
Nose fuze for RML 40-Pr and upwards, RBL 40-Pr in Land Service and 20-Pr in Sea Service.
Mark III* introduced 2 Dec 1892. All marks obsolete 21st July 1911.
[Refs: Notes (mine) and Hogg's. List of Changes]
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John D. Bartleson Jr.
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Your Copy;
Dave,
Attached is a rendering of your MkIII* 1891
Best Regards,
John aka Bart
Dave,
Attached is a rendering of your MkIII* 1891
Best Regards,
John aka Bart
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WOW, very good John, thanks. I won't ask you to share your secrets on how you do these great drawings but they certainly show things that it are difficult to show in photographs.
Thanks.
Dave.
More old fuzes
I went shopping on Saturday and got a few more, these ones have got the brass bits that the number III fuzes screw into. Can anyone confirm how these function. The short ones are aprox 45mm long, I assume they are just the brass fuze pockets? The longer ones are about 120mm long and taper down to a single point which unscrews, it looks very much like part of the fuze as opposed to the fuze pocket. Would this be full of black powder or equivalent? I've tried googling this but can't quite find what I'm looking for.
All INERT etc.
Thanks,
Dave.
I went shopping on Saturday and got a few more, these ones have got the brass bits that the number III fuzes screw into. Can anyone confirm how these function. The short ones are aprox 45mm long, I assume they are just the brass fuze pockets? The longer ones are about 120mm long and taper down to a single point which unscrews, it looks very much like part of the fuze as opposed to the fuze pocket. Would this be full of black powder or equivalent? I've tried googling this but can't quite find what I'm looking for.
All INERT etc.
Thanks,
Dave.
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Thanks for showing them Dave, it's reassuring to know there are still some to be found. XT
Yes thanks Norman you kindly provided the info earlier in the thread, it was the other bits that went with it that I was looking for info about especially the longer ones.
Thanks,
Dave.
nly just getting started..........:tinysmile_twink_t2:
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John D. Bartleson Jr.
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John D. Bartleson Jr.
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Adapters for Spherical Shells;
Hi Dave,
Because the adapters are threaded on the inside to receive the No. 7 and the like and the outside is tapered w/o threads Iam betting that these tapered adapters were used to adapt the threaded fuzes to spherical shells, in which some merely had tapered holes to receive the old Boxer wooden time fuses. Yes, I beliieve the longer adapters would have been charged with black powder to transmit the flame from the fuze to the black powder filler. Probably for larger diameter shell, however, because the shell is liable not to impact the target and the correct angle, I believe that the adapters were more likely to adapt the early Sea Service Pettman fuze to the round shells having tapered fuze holes. the Pettman SS became obsolete prior to the fuze numbering system.
John aka Bart
See my PM
Hi Dave,
Because the adapters are threaded on the inside to receive the No. 7 and the like and the outside is tapered w/o threads Iam betting that these tapered adapters were used to adapt the threaded fuzes to spherical shells, in which some merely had tapered holes to receive the old Boxer wooden time fuses. Yes, I beliieve the longer adapters would have been charged with black powder to transmit the flame from the fuze to the black powder filler. Probably for larger diameter shell, however, because the shell is liable not to impact the target and the correct angle, I believe that the adapters were more likely to adapt the early Sea Service Pettman fuze to the round shells having tapered fuze holes. the Pettman SS became obsolete prior to the fuze numbering system.
John aka Bart
See my PM
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