Unknown Fuze (to me)

[Chris]

Can anybody identify this fuze for me please.
Found on a 15 cm.
Markings are O T V and an arrow

Regards,

Chris

 

[Alpini]

It's a Krupp percussion fuze with setable delay, delivered to many countries. Used for 9,xx until 15,xx cm shells. Maybe even larger. With 0 T V possibly made for the Netherlands or Belgium. Sweden, Bulgaria and South American countries had them too and for sure some other I don't know. Also Germany used them during 1st WW. Inside the shell it's a pretty long and heavy fuze and not often seen.

0 = without delay
T = transport
V = delay

Drawing can be found in the dutch manuals for example (can't access my archive at moment)

 

[Chris]

Fuze

Alpini do you mean the Swedish M12 fuze (see photo).
If you have any information from a (Dutch) manual please share it.

Regards,

Chris

 

[greif]

The Dutch equivalent of this fuze is the Schokbuis No. 8.
It is marked:
ZV = zonder vertraging (without delay)
MV = met vertraging (delayed)
VEILIG (safe)

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello Chris,
We already talked about it in this post : http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/83125-Unknown-WW1-Fuze?highlight=krupp+fuze+shell+german
I found the same on a fired 15cm (same as Gr14) in ww1 battelfield (I thought to German shell or captured Belgian shell used by German).

 

[Chris]

So the fuzes have the same working principal but the outside looks a bit different.

 

[Alpini]

Yes, there are different shapes of these fuzes but the functionality is always the same. I really wonder if your fuze was may be introduced in Belgium? But I don't have documents about Belgium, it's still a black box for me. Do you know in which country it was found? I also wouldn't wonder if the Netherlands at least got some of them for trials. The Dutch No.2 is also one of this series, probably the earliest.

@MINENAZ16: This 15 cm Gr. 14 was called may be "15 cm Gr. 14 mit Krupp-Zünder". I read about it in the archives but sadly no drawing was attached. But there is still one more candidate for this shell: the dutch Schokbuis No.16 because it would fit directly into a 15 cm Gr.14 and I think it was used during WW1 (most probably taken from stocks produced for the Netherlands which were never delivered because the war started)

 

[Chris]

Thank you Alpini,

They told me they were found in Belgium on 15 cm Shells

 

[MINENAZ16]

So exactly the same shell I found in the Somme.

 

[mauser1889]

Yes, there are different shapes of these fuzes but the functionality is always the same. I really wonder if your fuze was may be introduced in Belgium? But I don't have documents about Belgium, it's still a black box for me. Do you know in which country it was found? I also wouldn't wonder if the Netherlands at least got some of them for trials. The Dutch No.2 is also one of this series, probably the earliest.

@MINENAZ16: This 15 cm Gr. 14 was called may be "15 cm Gr. 14 mit Krupp-Zünder". I read about it in the archives but sadly no drawing was attached. But there is still one more candidate for this shell: the dutch Schokbuis No.16 because it would fit directly into a 15 cm Gr.14 and I think it was used during WW1 (most probably taken from stocks produced for the Netherlands which were never delivered because the war started)

hello Alpini
belgium had the same fuse but with the markings O V do you or someone have dimensions of the treat on the fuse (like diameter and treat/inch)