Feel free to post them anyway, always interested in squeezebores from any country. Could be worth starting a separate thread for squeezebores from other countries?
Thanks.
Dave.
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Feel free to post them anyway, always interested in squeezebores from any country. Could be worth starting a separate thread for squeezebores from other countries?
Thanks.
Dave.
Thanks.
5cm arrowheads in the CORRECT cases (the crimp marks are lower down than the normal AP and He versions.
Dave.
Thanks yet again for posting all these amazing pictures, it must be one of the worlds best collections of this sort of thing. Are these ones the 5cm ones?
Dave.
the Round with the "40 Kw.K." headstamp is a fake again (with a fantasy headstamp)
Nothing here is fake or fantasy, they all are part of a very legitimate historic museum collection. Some items may have been miss-identified by museum staff - or me, or rounds may on occasion end up in incorrect cases, but all are WWII recoveries (WWII and immediately after the war) and I have the highest degree of confidence in their authenticity. I don't pretend to know what they all are or to understand many of their markings, but I am certain that they are authentic.
yes all other look genuine, except this one: http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=60596&d=1323897214
In this case it's not a question, it is a fake for sure!
here an other example from the same "factory" with the same fake WaA Stamp:
http://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?t=1935&highlight=cm
In this case it's not a question, it is a fake for sure!
here an other example from the same "factory" with the same fake WaA Stamp:
http://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?t=1935&highlight=cm
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Alpini,
I've read through the posts that I can understand - not a German speaker - Noting that there are some similarities, there are also numerous differences. Possibly because I cannot understand all of the posts in the other forum, I remain unconvinced. Perhaps the biggest point for me is the lineage. This item comes from a museum that was closed in the mid 1990s. It's museum record number goes back a number of years further. The museum was a military one, made up specifically of items that were experimental test pieces or munitions that were recovered from conflict zones and returned for evaluation. The museum sold nothing, bought nothing, did not accept donations from the civilian world. If this is a fake, I do not understand how it got into the system, or why. There is no profit to be made here, no one is trying to sell something or con anybody. You have seen the other photos - a tiny fraction of what I am reviewing - this piece is a part of the same collection, all of the pieces grouped from WWII. While I recognize that fakes can find their way into museums, this was not a normal museum like the Smithsonian or the Imperial war Museum.
Please share the photos with the other forum, I would be intersted in hearing their opinion, and if this piece remains in doubt, a translation of exactly why. Thanks in advance.
I've read through the posts that I can understand - not a German speaker - Noting that there are some similarities, there are also numerous differences. Possibly because I cannot understand all of the posts in the other forum, I remain unconvinced. Perhaps the biggest point for me is the lineage. This item comes from a museum that was closed in the mid 1990s. It's museum record number goes back a number of years further. The museum was a military one, made up specifically of items that were experimental test pieces or munitions that were recovered from conflict zones and returned for evaluation. The museum sold nothing, bought nothing, did not accept donations from the civilian world. If this is a fake, I do not understand how it got into the system, or why. There is no profit to be made here, no one is trying to sell something or con anybody. You have seen the other photos - a tiny fraction of what I am reviewing - this piece is a part of the same collection, all of the pieces grouped from WWII. While I recognize that fakes can find their way into museums, this was not a normal museum like the Smithsonian or the Imperial war Museum.
Please share the photos with the other forum, I would be intersted in hearing their opinion, and if this piece remains in doubt, a translation of exactly why. Thanks in advance.
US-Subs....
Irrespective of the question about 5cm Arrowhead (Which is incredibly common relative to the others, so I wouldn't worry too much)... I for one would like to give you a HUGE thank you for posting these pictures. Really nice to see them with such good quality pictures as well
Can I ask if these are in another museum now in the US and viewable?
If there are any more, please keep posting)
Thank you again
Rich
Irrespective of the question about 5cm Arrowhead (Which is incredibly common relative to the others, so I wouldn't worry too much)... I for one would like to give you a HUGE thank you for posting these pictures. Really nice to see them with such good quality pictures as well
Can I ask if these are in another museum now in the US and viewable?
If there are any more, please keep posting
)Thank you again
Rich
Jeff, I understand the nature of this collection but need to say that I heard plenty of stories from people who visited such places and were allowed to do research and photo work in there. Nothing easier done than taking in a fake and replacing the original. Not all researchers and collectors are honest! Do these people have a log of who has been in and out over the last 15 years?
Not to mention the stories I know of where employees and visitors been helping themselfes and took what ever they wanted (or were able to carry). And this does not apply only to the US.
Not to mention the stories I know of where employees and visitors been helping themselfes and took what ever they wanted (or were able to carry). And this does not apply only to the US.
